TamBrahms….
All the only nobel laureates for science, born in India. The only indian considered to be a mathematical genius. And some Intellectuals and artists and captains of Industries and other achievements as well. They are pretty fair, not like the rest of us darkies from the south, Quite beautiful faces, rich and affluent, enjoy a good reputation and status(throughout history), can speak english well,quite sophisticated , understand and can synthesise the different aspects of modernity & global culture, etc , etc..well you know what im trying to say
But still I would not give a second look at them when i see them anywhere(actually i would, but just trying to make a point here)..not like i have lived only in TN/Chennai, and Im not a prejudiced member of the dravidian movement either. Infact im anti-dravidian and a BJP spporter(not that i know too much abt politics or anything).
Im not even talking about the novelty factor and the fact that I can look through them being a tamil/southie/chennaiite myself. I am trying to say why despite having such wonderful attributes , they, according to me are not what i consider ‘The Elite’ amongst desis.
So what is eliteness, what are the attributes of the elite and why?. I mean Im sure we are all constantly working towards climbing the social ladder and trying to be the cool/hipster crowd( like the great Gatsby). -Though many might deny it or not have explicitly thought it out this way but,..generally speaking i believe this to be the case…
I say this about tambrahms coz relatively, they are not associated with fun as much as an average north indian.
I have dealt with this topic in much much details in my videos/vlogs and other blogs..but let me try to briefly.. here.
Living in a hot climate has given southies dry,damaged, stretched out, thick,skin, and saggy and non-flatter facial features.A loss of collagen, saggy muscles and improper physical frame because of the inhibition of vitamin D by melanin and lower synthesis of youth hormones such as oestrogen which shapes ones thinking/voice/body chemistry, loss of essential supply of nutrients to blood and organs via dehydration and sweating and hence not so great organs such as eyes( studies indicated northies have a better eyes than southies). Many such anti-neotenous factors influencing us for over 1000s of years because of living in this generally hotter geography and thereby contributing permanent changes to the molecular leisons..known as genetic change,as well as the physical features/lack of neoteny contributing to lack of intellectual neoteny and a more mature,dullish thinking compared to the north.
North india, has a good variation of hot and cold climate which is good for muscle/skin biology..making muscles firmer, faces flatter, good body chemistry and hence nice neotenous features…Physical neoteny enforcing intellectual neoteny..which has its influence on how they think and their culture and having this neotenous mindset of a 10 year old also making their faces cuter while the mature attitude and behaviour making the faces of southies..a bit mature and not playful or flirty or anything.
In other words.think Vidya Balan, think kareena kapoor. Who is the mature/Intelligent of the two? , who would you flirt with/like to have fun with? You can also think of some bengali bombshells if not kareena..to compare against vidya or trisha or hemamalini or heroines like that.
Generally speaking, the whole perception of North indians is that they are more playful/neotenous and fun(think salman or akshay) and that of south indian is more mature and serious(think surya or even raj kiran if you may) ..even if i first like a person coz i thought they are NI but when I find they are SI, I lose interest…its the perception trigerring the other things in my brain..thats what happened with aishwariya rai a long time ago.
I showed pictures of girls in bharathmatrimony and asked a punjabi friend of mine to tell if he would flirt with the girl or not (not if he thought she was beautiful or not). I mainly showed tamil, pinjiabi,hindi gujarati bengali , and overwhelmingly he would say yes to flirting with non-tamils and no to tamils(brahmins included). He is not at all a prejudiced guy and he doesnt also wouldnt know if he was looking at a tamil or hindi or punjabi girl from the ID’s
What makes one elite? or atleast on the top of the social ladder that we talked about.
If you size up a person and think that that person has more than you he/she is higher up the ladder right? and what do people envy most, is it money/wealth? knowledge? respect? deeper intellectual ability? sure all these things do matter. But the one that takes priority is the basic thing that makes you a fit for survival and propogation of you and related genes. Everyone can get good food, so whats a rarity is attractivenss/sexyness.. If you are attractive you will have a lot of positive moments in life. people with money,intelligence, status etc ..they all want to use those only to get attractive partner. Dont get politically correct on me and say there are other imp things in life blah blah..Im saying generally/biologically speaking this is th case..In real life there may be a lot of complexity in preferences, but biologically speaking food and mating are the fundamental instincts. And this is why being sexy/attractive/fun is more than other things.
I had already talked about(in other blogs) why being attractive is more important than being Intelligent and why experiences pertaining to sex are more important than experiences pertaining to intellectual and other kinda achievements. http://jayanpsk.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/httpswww-youtube-comwatchvmtuw_qwgm74who-would-you-rather-be-in-the-car/
No matter how wealthy you are, how deep your thoughts are, how knowledgeable and sophisticated you are , if you do not have beauty in your group you will feel like you are below another group. A Major part of an individual confidence comes from ones background. And this is probably why people from being self-centred when they are young, realise the need to improve their community – thats certainly the case with me
people with beauty do have things in life a bit more easy than the others, and it feels like no matter how much effort the later puts in, the attractive ones seem to be getting higher up the ladder more easily. Thats why Bombay,delhi and even blore with many northies coming are whats considered the ‘Hipster’/cool cities and people from these cities do tend to look down upon someone from lets say chennai.
And northies, be honest. you are comfortable around southies because you know are better looking than them and you feel a sense of superiority(subconsciously and many pricks consciously). You are more confident around them and you try to be nice to them and on occassions even generously forefit the title of being more intelligent. But some cocky ones act the other way..aggressive,because they are northies they think they always have a more valid point,better perspective and that they are more sophisticated and cool..like making fun of southies for their accents(despite the northies have their own accent..that is a cool accent as they are the cool people) .
For eg. Why does this asshole in the Ad have a Disgusting look on his face while saying ‘kolaver di??’ @ 00.18
Ive see many react that way while talking about things related to south. They let out a disgusted ,degrading tone/expression implying that things related to south are somehow lower and something to be ridiculed. But in the same plane , when they talk about Italian,,they always use a tone which signifies that they are talking about something glamorous, sexy and something which is on a higher level..not just in the above ad but many other occasions and in real life too.
The more some one is fair/good looking, closer/associated to europens..they sub-consciously think they have more of a right to act that way,like they think they have more of a right to talk in english,wear westrn clothes and tastes and more confidence that you are doing it better than your counterpart who is not so closely associated with the white/western traits. Its not just themselves….all people in general expect a fair skinned/person associated with beauty to act cute,be sophistictaed(or watever the good looking person does becomes the trend/sophistication) or be righteous and the minute a darky does things like talk in english with a cool accent..people go..thats weird/fake(inside their heads, they dont necessarily say it out). people always wanna be associated with positivity and thats the reason why people have adopted other religion/cultures historically..for eg.the christians somehow thought hey will become more like europeans and they also think its now their right to guiltlessly use English a lot , now that they are christians. Well if you have Europeans or any other positive idols on one end that you are running towards….you gotta have someone on the other end that you are runnign away from – and that my frinds now are the conservative south indians. We are not associated with looks,wealth, western culture, fun, etc ..why would anyone want to be associated with us. Best case scenario all we have is your pity and mostly people are running away from us. You are not for a single second jealous of us.
The Hypocrisy:
Even among a homogenous society…the ones at the top(looks, wealth etc wise) are more confident, enthusiatic, raw, have a ‘do what one feels like’ nature, playful, show off ,childish,aggressive, and act in a self-centred way..and the others accept this kinda behaviour from the people on top. Whereas the people in the bottom strata are always so curbed in their emotions because of either their confidence level or because of how the society expects them to be. they are not so aggressive, modest, and hence are not very forth coming and they come across as quite dull and mature as they only act in a way that is expected of them. So in a way this raw, aggressive behaviour is also associated with Eliteness and maturity is associated with low class. And thats why every form of south indian expression, art,mannerism - because of the modesty/maturity inherent in them, tends to get associated with low classness and the way bollywood/hollywood heroines talk and act gets associated with fun and classyness – even though they are not necessarily intelligent or brainy in comparison.The reason why many people are irritated by southies is the fact that we pretend to have fun and have the best culture without any fun. Its like some one eating a simple curdrice and claiming to have the best/tastiest food to the others who are eating biriyanis and pizzas. This hypocritical nature is I suspect is another of the reason for the above google search result. This hypocrisy is also why many tamils within chennai itself are trying to talk only in english and dissociate with the rest of the crowd. Southies claim to be living well, but when amongst northies we burn with jealousy almost 99.9 % of the time and secretly bitch about you a lot to other southies, but mainly just wanna hump you and somehow become like you.
you can check these out for more hardcore debates and comments on this
http://www.ravikiran.com/blog/classic/200404/attention-north-indians/
http://www.topix.com/forum/in/mangalore/TCIL5226JG7U1IVFL
http://englisharuna.blogspot.in/2009/06/north-indians-vs-south-indians.html
This defending of conservativeness has its root in trying to preserve its native/historical ( Christianity has actually made the tamil/south indian culture even more convervative than what it was before) culture and not readily accepting the values of west and the cognitive dissonance that comes with trying to deal with its influence. Its good to have pride in our culture, but I think the conservative attitude only works well in closed societies and in this day of globalisation, we need to re-asses our outlook.
Thats what is missing from the southies. And so just because we have to be more fun , it doesnt mean that we become ultra-liberal and superficially flirty and playful. I guess things need to change step by step. A very good first step would be to not be afraid to show off having fun, or not hold back. Our texts like kural etc tell us not to be aggressive or show off / rub it in the face of others that you are having fun. But in this globalised life, everybody else is rubbing it in our faces. So we better become more forth-coming, and openly fun. It starts from the way we speak – the tone, the accent, the body language, what we say etc to a change in the mature/conservative attitude we have. Just because you are Tamil or indian, it doesnt mean you have to be humble or simple. You do not have to talk in english or be more westernised in taste to have an attitude. You can talk in tamil yet have that confidence, attitude or a fun ‘holier than though’ outlook . I mean a lot of things has to fall in place for that, like you should be proud of your intellectual/physical traits and ‘Tamilness’ and tamil culture/movies should be cool somehow(which is gonna take a long time with the dravidian conservative outlook)..but generally if youve been places , done things or know things or you know ur having fun,you can develop this confident attitude.
I mean look at the above picture.A typical conservative yet cheerful south indian girl rite? but she is kamalini mukerjee and now imagine her in some modern attire with an out going persona..completey a different perception of her comes to mind. I think kamal has carefully selected here to give out these messages to us.The former a bengali and the later a punjabi – roma asrani. Reputation is the cornerstone of power and southies need a reputation of being flirty and fun and aggressive, which their maturity kills. Without this fun factor, there is no way we could come across as more sophisticated/hi-fi or give them the holier-than -thou or better-than-you attitude while we meet others and size each other up.
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All the only nobel laureates for science, born in India. The only indian considered to be a mathematical genius. And some Intellectuals and artists and captains of Industries and other achievements as well. They are pretty fair, not like the rest of us darkies from the south, Quite beautiful faces, rich and affluent, enjoy a good reputation and status(throughout history), can speak english well,quite sophisticated , understand and can synthesise the different aspects of modernity & global culture, etc , etc..well you know what im trying to say
But still I would not give a second look at them when i see them anywhere(actually i would, but just trying to make a point here)..not like i have lived only in TN/Chennai, and Im not a prejudiced member of the dravidian movement either. Infact im anti-dravidian and a BJP spporter(not that i know too much abt politics or anything).
Im not even talking about the novelty factor and the fact that I can look through them being a tamil/southie/chennaiite myself. I am trying to say why despite having such wonderful attributes , they, according to me are not what i consider ‘The Elite’ amongst desis.
So what is eliteness, what are the attributes of the elite and why?. I mean Im sure we are all constantly working towards climbing the social ladder and trying to be the cool/hipster crowd( like the great Gatsby). -Though many might deny it or not have explicitly thought it out this way but,..generally speaking i believe this to be the case…
I say this about tambrahms coz relatively, they are not associated with fun as much as an average north indian.
I have dealt with this topic in much much details in my videos/vlogs and other blogs..but let me try to briefly.. here.
Living in a hot climate has given southies dry,damaged, stretched out, thick,skin, and saggy and non-flatter facial features.A loss of collagen, saggy muscles and improper physical frame because of the inhibition of vitamin D by melanin and lower synthesis of youth hormones such as oestrogen which shapes ones thinking/voice/body chemistry, loss of essential supply of nutrients to blood and organs via dehydration and sweating and hence not so great organs such as eyes( studies indicated northies have a better eyes than southies). Many such anti-neotenous factors influencing us for over 1000s of years because of living in this generally hotter geography and thereby contributing permanent changes to the molecular leisons..known as genetic change,as well as the physical features/lack of neoteny contributing to lack of intellectual neoteny and a more mature,dullish thinking compared to the north.
North india, has a good variation of hot and cold climate which is good for muscle/skin biology..making muscles firmer, faces flatter, good body chemistry and hence nice neotenous features…Physical neoteny enforcing intellectual neoteny..which has its influence on how they think and their culture and having this neotenous mindset of a 10 year old also making their faces cuter while the mature attitude and behaviour making the faces of southies..a bit mature and not playful or flirty or anything.
In other words.think Vidya Balan, think kareena kapoor. Who is the mature/Intelligent of the two? , who would you flirt with/like to have fun with? You can also think of some bengali bombshells if not kareena..to compare against vidya or trisha or hemamalini or heroines like that.
Generally speaking, the whole perception of North indians is that they are more playful/neotenous and fun(think salman or akshay) and that of south indian is more mature and serious(think surya or even raj kiran if you may) ..even if i first like a person coz i thought they are NI but when I find they are SI, I lose interest…its the perception trigerring the other things in my brain..thats what happened with aishwariya rai a long time ago.
I showed pictures of girls in bharathmatrimony and asked a punjabi friend of mine to tell if he would flirt with the girl or not (not if he thought she was beautiful or not). I mainly showed tamil, pinjiabi,hindi gujarati bengali , and overwhelmingly he would say yes to flirting with non-tamils and no to tamils(brahmins included). He is not at all a prejudiced guy and he doesnt also wouldnt know if he was looking at a tamil or hindi or punjabi girl from the ID’s
What makes one elite? or atleast on the top of the social ladder that we talked about.
If you size up a person and think that that person has more than you he/she is higher up the ladder right? and what do people envy most, is it money/wealth? knowledge? respect? deeper intellectual ability? sure all these things do matter. But the one that takes priority is the basic thing that makes you a fit for survival and propogation of you and related genes. Everyone can get good food, so whats a rarity is attractivenss/sexyness.. If you are attractive you will have a lot of positive moments in life. people with money,intelligence, status etc ..they all want to use those only to get attractive partner. Dont get politically correct on me and say there are other imp things in life blah blah..Im saying generally/biologically speaking this is th case..In real life there may be a lot of complexity in preferences, but biologically speaking food and mating are the fundamental instincts. And this is why being sexy/attractive/fun is more than other things.
I had already talked about(in other blogs) why being attractive is more important than being Intelligent and why experiences pertaining to sex are more important than experiences pertaining to intellectual and other kinda achievements. http://jayanpsk.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/httpswww-youtube-comwatchvmtuw_qwgm74who-would-you-rather-be-in-the-car/
No matter how wealthy you are, how deep your thoughts are, how knowledgeable and sophisticated you are , if you do not have beauty in your group you will feel like you are below another group. A Major part of an individual confidence comes from ones background. And this is probably why people from being self-centred when they are young, realise the need to improve their community – thats certainly the case with me
people with beauty do have things in life a bit more easy than the others, and it feels like no matter how much effort the later puts in, the attractive ones seem to be getting higher up the ladder more easily. Thats why Bombay,delhi and even blore with many northies coming are whats considered the ‘Hipster’/cool cities and people from these cities do tend to look down upon someone from lets say chennai.
And northies, be honest. you are comfortable around southies because you know are better looking than them and you feel a sense of superiority(subconsciously and many pricks consciously). You are more confident around them and you try to be nice to them and on occassions even generously forefit the title of being more intelligent. But some cocky ones act the other way..aggressive,because they are northies they think they always have a more valid point,better perspective and that they are more sophisticated and cool..like making fun of southies for their accents(despite the northies have their own accent..that is a cool accent as they are the cool people) .
For eg. Why does this asshole in the Ad have a Disgusting look on his face while saying ‘kolaver di??’ @ 00.18
Ive see many react that way while talking about things related to south. They let out a disgusted ,degrading tone/expression implying that things related to south are somehow lower and something to be ridiculed. But in the same plane , when they talk about Italian,,they always use a tone which signifies that they are talking about something glamorous, sexy and something which is on a higher level..not just in the above ad but many other occasions and in real life too.
The more some one is fair/good looking, closer/associated to europens..they sub-consciously think they have more of a right to act that way,like they think they have more of a right to talk in english,wear westrn clothes and tastes and more confidence that you are doing it better than your counterpart who is not so closely associated with the white/western traits. Its not just themselves….all people in general expect a fair skinned/person associated with beauty to act cute,be sophistictaed(or watever the good looking person does becomes the trend/sophistication) or be righteous and the minute a darky does things like talk in english with a cool accent..people go..thats weird/fake(inside their heads, they dont necessarily say it out). people always wanna be associated with positivity and thats the reason why people have adopted other religion/cultures historically..for eg.the christians somehow thought hey will become more like europeans and they also think its now their right to guiltlessly use English a lot , now that they are christians. Well if you have Europeans or any other positive idols on one end that you are running towards….you gotta have someone on the other end that you are runnign away from – and that my frinds now are the conservative south indians. We are not associated with looks,wealth, western culture, fun, etc ..why would anyone want to be associated with us. Best case scenario all we have is your pity and mostly people are running away from us. You are not for a single second jealous of us.
The Hypocrisy:
Even among a homogenous society…the ones at the top(looks, wealth etc wise) are more confident, enthusiatic, raw, have a ‘do what one feels like’ nature, playful, show off ,childish,aggressive, and act in a self-centred way..and the others accept this kinda behaviour from the people on top. Whereas the people in the bottom strata are always so curbed in their emotions because of either their confidence level or because of how the society expects them to be. they are not so aggressive, modest, and hence are not very forth coming and they come across as quite dull and mature as they only act in a way that is expected of them. So in a way this raw, aggressive behaviour is also associated with Eliteness and maturity is associated with low class. And thats why every form of south indian expression, art,mannerism - because of the modesty/maturity inherent in them, tends to get associated with low classness and the way bollywood/hollywood heroines talk and act gets associated with fun and classyness – even though they are not necessarily intelligent or brainy in comparison.The reason why many people are irritated by southies is the fact that we pretend to have fun and have the best culture without any fun. Its like some one eating a simple curdrice and claiming to have the best/tastiest food to the others who are eating biriyanis and pizzas. This hypocritical nature is I suspect is another of the reason for the above google search result. This hypocrisy is also why many tamils within chennai itself are trying to talk only in english and dissociate with the rest of the crowd. Southies claim to be living well, but when amongst northies we burn with jealousy almost 99.9 % of the time and secretly bitch about you a lot to other southies, but mainly just wanna hump you and somehow become like you.
you can check these out for more hardcore debates and comments on this
http://www.ravikiran.com/blog/classic/200404/attention-north-indians/
http://www.topix.com/forum/in/mangalore/TCIL5226JG7U1IVFL
http://englisharuna.blogspot.in/2009/06/north-indians-vs-south-indians.html
This defending of conservativeness has its root in trying to preserve its native/historical ( Christianity has actually made the tamil/south indian culture even more convervative than what it was before) culture and not readily accepting the values of west and the cognitive dissonance that comes with trying to deal with its influence. Its good to have pride in our culture, but I think the conservative attitude only works well in closed societies and in this day of globalisation, we need to re-asses our outlook.
Thats what is missing from the southies. And so just because we have to be more fun , it doesnt mean that we become ultra-liberal and superficially flirty and playful. I guess things need to change step by step. A very good first step would be to not be afraid to show off having fun, or not hold back. Our texts like kural etc tell us not to be aggressive or show off / rub it in the face of others that you are having fun. But in this globalised life, everybody else is rubbing it in our faces. So we better become more forth-coming, and openly fun. It starts from the way we speak – the tone, the accent, the body language, what we say etc to a change in the mature/conservative attitude we have. Just because you are Tamil or indian, it doesnt mean you have to be humble or simple. You do not have to talk in english or be more westernised in taste to have an attitude. You can talk in tamil yet have that confidence, attitude or a fun ‘holier than though’ outlook . I mean a lot of things has to fall in place for that, like you should be proud of your intellectual/physical traits and ‘Tamilness’ and tamil culture/movies should be cool somehow(which is gonna take a long time with the dravidian conservative outlook)..but generally if youve been places , done things or know things or you know ur having fun,you can develop this confident attitude.
I mean look at the above picture.A typical conservative yet cheerful south indian girl rite? but she is kamalini mukerjee and now imagine her in some modern attire with an out going persona..completey a different perception of her comes to mind. I think kamal has carefully selected here to give out these messages to us.The former a bengali and the later a punjabi – roma asrani. Reputation is the cornerstone of power and southies need a reputation of being flirty and fun and aggressive, which their maturity kills. Without this fun factor, there is no way we could come across as more sophisticated/hi-fi or give them the holier-than -thou or better-than-you attitude while we meet others and size each other up.
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